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The latest is they are looking into it, vaccination against COVID as a requirement for employment is a temporary measure, and right below that statement it says boosters may be a requirement and we will follow public health.Isn't LWOP what they are saying right now??
You do not need an OIC to change a QR&O. Each of the Minister and Treasury Board can make and change regulations within their appropriate areas pursuant to s 12 of the NDA as limited by s 13. Pursuant to s 18(2) of the NDA, all orders and instructions to the CF are issued by or through the CDS. Together, these regulations and these orders are QR&Os.That's what happens when you make up crap on the fly without a cabinet to issue an OIC change to the QR&Os to allow members to be forced onto LWOP. It'll be interesting to see if they try that, seeing as how we paid Russell Williams while he was pending trial but because someone is "unclean" they'll get their pay cut.
Stop it with the relevance instead of reaching....You do not need an OIC to change a QR&O. Each of the Minister and Treasury Board can make and change regulations within their appropriate areas pursuant to s 12 of the NDA as limited by s 13. Pursuant to s 18(2) of the NDA, all orders and instructions to the CF are issued by or through the CDS. Together, these regulations and these orders are QR&Os.
Pursuant to QR&Os 1.13, which is an OiC, a fairly broad delegation of powers authority is given to the CDS.
I'm not about to go into a lengthy analysis of who has power to do what within DND vis-a-vis this issue (I'll leave that to DAP) but I'm pretty certain that these matters do not need an OiC to be valid. Legislatures and governments generally operate by delegation of powers to the appropriate departments.wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I believe so yes.So... we're holding the public service to a higher standard than the CAF, then?
The PS process isn’t much more sophisticated. It’s an attestation in TAP. So no proof either.I believe so yes.
I don't think the CAF has the backbone to do it. They'll give themselves a backdoor.
I mean right now the only proof required is to input the dates you think you got your vaccination into monitormass. No requirement to upload a photocopy or scan of your needle book or any sort of proof.
I know a reserve csm who formed everyone up and asked who had their vaccination. Took names and then updated monitormass on everyone's behalf.
If it was that easy, the CAF would have sorted it out with the CDS Directive issued last week. Or...Stop it with the relevance instead of reaching....
Is it lack of backbone or realizing the direction to put people on LWOP is stupid and overly punitive? If we want to change the Medical Standard to require COVID-19 vaccination, do that. It makes complete sense, requires very little in the way of staff work to initiate but just means folks have to hang around while the PCATs are applied and ARs done.I don't think the CAF has the backbone to do it. They'll give themselves a backdoor.
Proof of Vaccination seems like a YMMV thing, depending on employer.So no proof either.
The City of Toronto requires proof of vaccination from all employees. Proof means documentation verifying receipt of a vaccination series approved by Health Canada or the World Health Organization.
For a two dose vaccine series, employees must receive one dose of COVID-19 vaccine by September 30, 2021 and two doses of COVID-19 vaccine by October 30, 2021.
You broke some ethical and moral boundaries.When all this first rolled out, like I mean Covid vaccines, I was looking after about 50 people- trying to get them in with public health etc to get their vaccinations. We were pretty excited to finally be eligible. So I had been asking everyone to include me in their emails to update their health records so I could track and make sure no one was missing out. I didn’t keep notes on people merely checked them off my lists.
It never even crossed my mind that it was all going to become this, and I was totally wrong to be included in their medical reporting. It was all good intentions- but my goodness the atmosphere changed fast.
Sorry for the derail. It’s just such strange times.
If you want to share you med info that is your prerogative. I simply don't want to share mine. That's what I mean.
Hey everyone, I have a fake hip and the arthritis wants my knee next.
Crap, I wanted everyone to go to hell......