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US, NATO Outta Afghanistan 2021

Colin Parkinson

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I doubt Pakistan would pull that crap with Trump, the benefit of being a loose cannon is no one knows what you might do. You can bet Pakistan is not worried. The best thing to do is freeze all aid immediately. then tell them that every American gets out or we are giving 50 million in military aid to India per person with no strings attached.
 

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I thought you guys were all in favour of keeping nukes out of the hands of Iran. So how pissy do you really want to get with Pakistan?

Things have been going on with Pakistan under the table for a couple of decades now. It's still going on. It will continue to go on. The US may have traded in the old Orange guy for Uncle Joe but the folks handling the Pakistani desk for the various initialed US agencies are the same.

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I doubt Pakistan would pull that crap with Trump, the benefit of being a loose cannon is no one knows what you might do. You can bet Pakistan is not worried. The best thing to do is freeze all aid immediately. then tell them that every American gets out or we are giving 50 million in military aid to India per person with no strings attached.

Aid to Pakistan by the Numbers​



In 2009, in an attempt to signal the United States’ renewed commitment to Pakistan, the US Congress approved the Enhanced Partnership for Pakistan Act (commonly known as the Kerry-Lugar-Berman bill, or KLB). KLB’s intention was to put security and development on two separate tracks, insulating the development agenda from unpredictable geopolitical and military events and facilitating longer-term planning for development. The act authorized a tripling of US economic and development-related assistance to Pakistan, or $7.5 billion over five years (FY2010 to FY2014), to improve Pakistan’s governance, support its economic growth, and invest in its people.

 

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I thought you guys were all in favour of keeping nukes out of the hands of Iran. So how pissy do you really want to get with Pakistan?

Things have been going on with Pakistan under the table for a couple of decades now. It's still going on. It will continue to go on. The US may have traded in the old Orange guy for Uncle Joe but the folks handling the Pakistani desk for the various initialed US agencies are the same.

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Couple of decades? The Mughals have been pissed since Clive got the better of them and the French in the 1750s. They had only been Masters of India since 1526. Henry VIII was on the throne in England. Ivan the Great had just got rid of the Tatar Yoke of the Mongols some 40 years previous.
 

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They finally make public their true colors, bomb en
Bomb who? Pakistan? Do you want to bomb China, too?

Given the ongoing cooperation between Pakistan & China (i.e. CPEC) I fully expect that in addition to acting in its own interests, Pakistan will, when required or instructed, act in China's interests, too.

We've had 20 years to deal with Pakistan. It didn't happen. It's not going to happen. Best you can do is throw a ton of effort towards helping India develop & prosper.

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Colin Parkinson

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I thought you guys were all in favour of keeping nukes out of the hands of Iran. So how pissy do you really want to get with Pakistan?

Things have been going on with Pakistan under the table for a couple of decades now. It's still going on. It will continue to go on. The US may have traded in the old Orange guy for Uncle Joe but the folks handling the Pakistani desk for the various initialed US agencies are the same.

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Iran is Shia and Pakistan is Sunni. they would not help Iran get the bomb. They would have (or had) helped Saddam if given the chance.
 

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Look who's coming to dinner, so to speak (Indian media) ....
... According to reports, the Taliban have invited Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Qatar to attend the inaugural ceremony, paving way for the first steps into foreign policy formulation for a nation that is yet again brought to a nascent stage ...
 

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Ladies & gentlemen, habemus Taliban government ....
The Taliban named Mullah Hasan Akhund, an associate of the movement's late founder Mullah Omar, as head of Afghanistan's new government on Tuesday and Sirajuddin Haqqani, whose organization is on a U.S. terrorism list, as interior minister.

Haqqani is the son of the founder of the Haqqani network, designated as a terrorist organisation by the United States. He is one of the FBI's most wanted men due to his involvement in suicide attacks and ties with Al Qaeda.

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, head of the movement's political office, was appointed as Akhund's deputy, main Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told a news conference in Kabul ...
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The Prequel

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Menachem Begin, Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah. He proclaimed a revolt, on 1 February 1944, against the British mandatory government, which was opposed by the Jewish Agency. As head of the Irgun, he targeted the British in Palestine.[2] Later, the Irgun fought the Arabs during the 1947–48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and its chief Begin was also noted as "leader of the notorious terrorist organisation" by the British government and banned from entering the United Kingdom.[3]

The Remake
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Some of Britain's best friends are terrorists.

Nkrumah, Kenyatta, Makarios, (OK terrorists may be a little harsh for some of them - but dead civilians and soldiers accompanied their rise).
 
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